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The Things They Carried

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  1. Mel u

    I had not before heard of this book but it sounds very interesting

  2. mee

    Yes David, what’s with men’s roman­tic fasci­nation with war?

  3. Mark David

    @Mel: I think you’ll like it Mel. I found a dif­fer­ent paper­back edi­tion at Fully Booked some time ago and I’m think­ing of buying that copy as well because the paper seems to be better than that of my cur­rent copy. But I like the cover of this one better. It’s more dramatic Smile

    @Mee: Hmm, I not sure I can give a sat­is­fy­ing answer. I refuse to believe that man (or even men in par­tic­u­lar) has an inher­ent liking for war and blood­shed. And I like to believe that not even those knife-wielding mean-green-killing-machine com­man­dos want war for war itself. At the same time, I think about my favorite movies and I must admit that many of them are either about war or is set in war time. I have a number of books in my shelf that fall under the same cat­e­gory. At least when por­trayed in film and lit­er­a­ture, war is often roman­ti­cized with a kind of press­ing drama that feels so poignant, so urgent, so real. I guess for some it’s a desire to feel like a hero, for others a lust for power. Not that it’s right, but car­ry­ing a gun and shoot­ing people which you “believe” to be bad guys can give you that feel­ing of power. Anyway, I’m not really sure. But in lit­er­a­ture, at least, it’s just another stage where writ­ers can explore the darker side of the human con­di­tion and make it sound com­pelling enough to be interesting.

    (ps: I have the feel­ing I didn’t answer your ques­tion and I didn’t make sense at all, lol!)

  4. Tricia

    Great review — it sounds like a very moving novel. I will add this one to my wish-list.

  5. mee

    David, I guess it was more like musing than real ques­tion Smile. I guess there are just some things that men have more inter­est in (gen­er­ally speak­ing) like pol­i­tics for exam­ple. It’s inter­est­ing that recently there have been many reviews on books about women that are “left behind” by their hus­bands to go to war. Like look­ing from the other end of the spectrum.

  6. diane

    I LOVED the audio ver­sion of this book; very powerful.

  7. Shelley

    With our young vet­er­ans coming back now, we need every lit­er­ary resource we can find to help us try to even begin to understand.

  8. Emily

    Gor­geous review as always, Mark David. I’m not often drawn to war sto­ries, but I cer­tainly under­stand how they would hold a fas­ci­na­tion — it’s a state of extrem­ity, isn’t it, when normal rules and expec­ta­tions are sus­pended, and one is face to face with mor­tal­ity in a way that doesn’t nor­mally happen in civil­ian life. And on the other hand, there are long peri­ods when it’s just so boring (this is from what I’ve heard, not per­sonal expe­ri­ence) — wait­ing around for orders in uncom­fort­able con­di­tions, so bored & at the same time so ner­vous for the order that might come at any time.

  9. Suko

    Mark David, as you were (almost) at a loss for words about this book, I feel the same way about your review. At least I can say that your review is excep­tional. I love your descrip­tions of the grand­fa­ther telling sto­ries about the war, in frag­ments, in a cycli­cal way, retelling and alter­ing them.

    I look for­ward to read­ing The Things They Car­ried.

  10. Mark David

    @Tricia: Thank you! Hope it proves to be a stim­u­lat­ing read for you as well Smile

    @Mee: Hmm, that is a good per­spec­tive to write about. There’s this TV drama I used to watch called The Unit and it fea­tured a lot of that. It does make you feel more empa­thy for these fam­i­lies as you real­ize that they too face a seri­ous battle at the “home­front” when their hus­bands or fathers are sent away on secre­tive mis­sions and they don’t know when exactly they’ll be able to come back (or if they ever will).

  11. Mark David

    @Diane: Oh, was it O’Brien who did the read­ing? I think his voice would do really well for these stories Smile

    @Shelley: Yes and I think there hap­pens to be a number of young vet­er­ans who are now drawn to writ­ing. Some of them were intro­duced to the craft as a form of ther­apy. I’ve recently heard on a radio doc­u­men­tary that some­where around 100,000 Amer­i­cans today return from war with PTSD, and many of them suffer the way the sol­diers in this book suf­fered when they got back home. It’s an alarm­ing sta­tis­tic, isn’t it?

  12. Mark David

    @Emily: Gee thanks Smile It’s good that you pointed that out, because there are parts of this book that did talk about that: the wait. Wait­ing is a killer too, and long peri­ods of bore­dom after intense peri­ods of battle is what some­times make sol­diers lose it. What hap­pens when a bunch of stressed out men with big guns and heavy emo­tional bur­dens are left idle for days in a for­eign land­scape which they’ve grown to hate? It can be a scary thing.

    @Suko: I hope you like it! You’ve recently reviewed The Lotus Eaters, and one thing about that book that caught my atten­tion is that it’s praised by Tim O’Brien. My thought was, if O’Brien liked that book which is also about Viet­nam, then it really must be good. Thanks! Smile

  13. claire

    David, you know I have a pen­chant for loving novels about/during war, even if I don’t nec­es­sar­ily intend to. I’ve been want­ing to read this, but you make it even more tempt­ing. Sounds beautiful.

    To Mee, my hus­band is cer­tainly obsessed with war movies and such. And guess what, my sons are, too. Go figure.

  14. Mark David

    @Claire: Oh yes, we’ve talked about this before, haven’t we? And I remem­ber you saying that it’s already caught your eye. Well, I have a really good feel­ing that you’ll like this. The form is just right. And there’s even a chap­ter enti­tled Form, which talks about why the book is writ­ten the way it is. Very well written.

    About your hus­band and your boys loving war movies, well, I guess that means it’s only normal that I love ‘em too Wink

    @Mee: I just remem­bered, have you seen the film A League of Their Own? It’s about an all-girls base­ball league that was formed because most of the male ballplay­ers at that time were drafted into ser­vice. It’s a really good movie Smile

  15. Leona

    Hi there cousin, this book really came to mind when I read your post about being a sol­dier. True, there are some books I don’t like for our required read­ing. But, I try to read them; for the sake of discovering/learning new things....and my for my grade. I’m not drawn to war sto­ries, there­fore I did not know the book would that amaz­ing. I am glad you enjoyed the book.

  16. Mark David

    Hello cousin! Yes, this is def­i­nitely one of the most well-written books I’ve ever read... SO GLAD to see you drop by my blog Smile

  17. Anna

    What a won­der­ful review! This book has been wait­ing patiently on my desk to be read, and I think I’ve been hes­i­tant because I’ve heard it’s so heavy. I’m look­ing for­ward to giving it a try now. I’ll link to your review on War Through the Gen­er­a­tions.

  18. Razor

    I am look­ing for­ward to read­ing this book. My favorite war writer is Erich Maria Remar­que and some people say that this book is writ­ten in a sim­i­lar style. I don’t know that, I need to check it out.

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